Help an old lady: 323 SP 1998 dead ECU
#1
Help an old lady: 323 SP 1998 dead ECU
HI, my mother has a '98 323SP. The ECU is dead, and nobody - dealer - mechanic - Mazda world-wide - breakers yards have been able to help.
Apparently the ECU and immobilizer have to come in sets - they exchange some kind of access codes.
Thus a replacement ECU has to be new or come with a paired old immobilizer. None of the above have been able to find neither - ANYWHERE.
I am also been told that the factory that made the units was hit by the japanese tsunami and destroyed together with their spares.
Thus my 90 year old mother is stuck with the famous low-mileage-perfect-condition-has-only-been driven-by-an-elderly-lady car.
Does anybody out there have any clue as to what to do?
Possibly a second hand paired set? Danish breakers did not know about the pairing so routinely dropped the units in separate boxes, hooray...
Apparently the ECU and immobilizer have to come in sets - they exchange some kind of access codes.
Thus a replacement ECU has to be new or come with a paired old immobilizer. None of the above have been able to find neither - ANYWHERE.
I am also been told that the factory that made the units was hit by the japanese tsunami and destroyed together with their spares.
Thus my 90 year old mother is stuck with the famous low-mileage-perfect-condition-has-only-been driven-by-an-elderly-lady car.
Does anybody out there have any clue as to what to do?
Possibly a second hand paired set? Danish breakers did not know about the pairing so routinely dropped the units in separate boxes, hooray...
#2
It might be possible to code the new ECU with the old immobilizer unit, but I'm sure a dealer would have to accomplish that. And too, I'm just guessing, but it might be worth looking into.
#6
Well, there is a reason for going world-wide
Local/nearby searched HAVE been tried. Apart from that the tsunami-thing og sudden unobtainium leaving a model range out of repair should be a real warning to people trying to preserve not-so-old cars as runners. On classics and veterans there are no such binary on-off electronics challenges. I am a computer engineer and this really shows a bad side of what we introduced to the world....
#7
Additional thoughts:
I don't think that the US spec cars have an immobilizer. A US spec ecm/pcm may bring the car back to life. However, there are some things that I simply don't know:
Is it plug and play?
Is it legal in DK? If not, will the inspectors notice or could you get an exemption?
And finally there is an open source fuel injection system available:
MegaSquirt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I wish you the best of luck. Keep checking with the wreckers everywhere, D, GB, NL. I bet one of them will pay attention and let you know when a matching set becomes available.
I don't think that the US spec cars have an immobilizer. A US spec ecm/pcm may bring the car back to life. However, there are some things that I simply don't know:
Is it plug and play?
Is it legal in DK? If not, will the inspectors notice or could you get an exemption?
And finally there is an open source fuel injection system available:
MegaSquirt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I wish you the best of luck. Keep checking with the wreckers everywhere, D, GB, NL. I bet one of them will pay attention and let you know when a matching set becomes available.
#8
Success - how it was fixed.
After searcing all over the net and wherever there was an address just 15 miles away from home to an elctronic wizard guy who MIGHT possibly be able to help. A family member said "heard about him, if he cannot do it, no-one can". Got the car transported there.
He got another ECU from the local breaker, and put the EPROM from the defective one into it. Engine started but immediately stopped again. It turned out the immobilizer was ALSO dead. Mazda had revealed nothing about this. So got an immo as well.
Hacked the whole set, coded the original keys, and alas there was a runner :-)
The whole operation took two weeks (waiting for this and that and what do we do now etc...), but charge: Just spares and 4 hours.
The Mazda repair shop charged 3 hours for 4 months of fruitless search and a personal visit to my mum to tell her that the car was probably only for scrap.
It ran on the day when it was due for authority checks.
I look forward to visit her on her 90th birthday this month.
As I am not myself a Mazda owner, but my neighbour is a rotary enthusiast enjoy a picture of his latest acquisition:
He got another ECU from the local breaker, and put the EPROM from the defective one into it. Engine started but immediately stopped again. It turned out the immobilizer was ALSO dead. Mazda had revealed nothing about this. So got an immo as well.
Hacked the whole set, coded the original keys, and alas there was a runner :-)
The whole operation took two weeks (waiting for this and that and what do we do now etc...), but charge: Just spares and 4 hours.
The Mazda repair shop charged 3 hours for 4 months of fruitless search and a personal visit to my mum to tell her that the car was probably only for scrap.
It ran on the day when it was due for authority checks.
I look forward to visit her on her 90th birthday this month.
As I am not myself a Mazda owner, but my neighbour is a rotary enthusiast enjoy a picture of his latest acquisition:
Last edited by andershl; 09-08-2014 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Picture