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B2200 sticking brakes. Need master?

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Old 12-25-2019 | 09:24 AM
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Jack up and spin the wheels, determine where the drag is.
 
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Old 12-26-2019 | 12:14 AM
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Thx Cusser.
Yes, did that.
Drag was very serious in front wheels. Sometimes so bad I could barely turn wheels by hand once the brakes were warmed up. They released after cooled down.Rear wheels seemed fine.

Put the new master on Today.
Test drove it a good long drive with lots of braking.
The front wheels are not dragging now. I jacked it up and spun them to see. Yippee!

However. Super spongy. What did I do wrong. Seems like they should work great.

Bench bled Master
then bled at master after install.
then at all wheels.
new fresh jar of fluid
I used the tube into bottle method of bleeding. I think I need a much better bleeder.

Should I just try bleeding them more? bleed again at master as per the Haynes says do?
Getting closer I think...
Thx much!





 
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Old 12-26-2019 | 02:51 AM
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Are you bleeding by pumping the fluid thru or sucking it thru?

 
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Old 12-26-2019 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruckus
Thx Cusser.
Yes, did that.
Drag was very serious in front wheels. Sometimes so bad I could barely turn wheels by hand once the brakes were warmed up. They released after cooled down.Rear wheels seemed fine.

Put the new master on Today.
Test drove it a good long drive with lots of braking.
The front wheels are not dragging now. I jacked it up and spun them to see. Yippee!

However. Super spongy. What did I do wrong. Seems like they should work great.

Bench bled Master
then bled at master after install.
then at all wheels.
new fresh jar of fluid
I used the tube into bottle method of bleeding. I think I need a much better bleeder.

Should I just try bleeding them more? bleed again at master as per the Haynes says do?
Getting closer I think...
Thx much!
Did you measure and re-adjust the booster pushrod with this new master cylinder?

Bleed the system again, whatever it takes. Yes, you can loosen the tube fitting(s) at the master cylinder and start pumping/bleeding there (put a rag underneath to catch the fluid). Then proceed to the single rear bleeder (driver side) and the front caliper bleeders.
 
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Old 12-26-2019 | 09:36 AM
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yep, measured the booster pushrod. it was right at about the same.
Ok. will bleed more.more.more.
Thkx!
 
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Old 12-27-2019 | 09:11 AM
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Did you manually adjust the rear brakes?
 
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Old 12-27-2019 | 09:45 AM
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No.
but will now that u say too...
Just for FMI (for my information)
​​​​What does that do?
thx
Ah, think I get it...minimizes the distance needed for rear pads to make contact. Thus less fluid travel. Thus less pedal travel. ?
 

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Old 12-28-2019 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruckus
Ah, think I get it...minimizes the distance needed for rear pads to make contact. Thus less fluid travel. Thus less pedal travel. ?
Yes. And helps with the brake bleeding. And should also help the parking brake.
 
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Old 01-06-2020 | 09:54 PM
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Sorry for the slow reporting.

Finally got time to get back to it.

And....adjusting the rear brakes, and bleeding again certainly helped. ! Thx.


Brakes are decent now. Safe enough to drive, no prob. not sticking.
The master wasn't horribly expensive on Rock auto. So, glad I did it. I think this was the key to the sticking brakes. And it is nice knowing it is new.

I think my expectations may be a bit high for a 28 year old truck. They are simply not going to be as tight and responsive as a new vehicle.
But working great and I will continue monitor them (the brakes)

FYI for anyone adjusting the rear brakes.
I over tightened the driver side. So, went to loosen them up with the "pawl lever" release.
Haynes manual has a pic with this thing at the top of the star adjuster. It is NOT on top of star adjuster, but at bottom.
No way to get at it. Can't see it. Can't get 2 screw drivers in to even find it.
Took the hub off to loosen it back up. Much easier this way.
Then started over with the adjustment.

Pic of "pawl lever". hope it is visible.

Thx again, Cusser! and forum! totally awesome.

 
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Old 01-12-2020 | 12:43 PM
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Well....heart break.

After all that work it blew the head gasket big time last night......haha.....oof.

I knew I would have to rebuild or replace the engine at some point, but was hoping it was further down the road....

And so it goes when owning a vehicle with 265K on the clock.

 
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