Idle Problem
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12-30-2013 | 06:26 PM
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I think something happened to distributor when it got bashed with hammer.
Is this car timing belt or timing chain? ----- time to change?
Mileage?
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12-31-2013 | 11:07 AM
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Juanky: The 6 cylinder was an option. It has 1.8 L of displacement. The 4 cylinder has 1.6 L and it is the same as in the 323. BengalBrad is referring to the bolts at the distributor base, not the cap.
BengalBrad: The picture does not show the connector well enough. But you may want to look if an individual pin or wire has been damaged/ bent. You may be able to jury-rig the connection.
I think you don't get a code because the damage occurred when the engine went off. Therefore the computer did not receive enough data. Go and check for spark. I bet you don't have any and the reason is the damaged connector.
BengalBrad: The picture does not show the connector well enough. But you may want to look if an individual pin or wire has been damaged/ bent. You may be able to jury-rig the connection.
I think you don't get a code because the damage occurred when the engine went off. Therefore the computer did not receive enough data. Go and check for spark. I bet you don't have any and the reason is the damaged connector.
When I was in college I was taking a course that dealt with the thinking process. The prof gave us what he called the "Peanut Butter Sandwich" test, in which we were to write down how to make a peanut butter sandwich. We all failed.....the reason being none of us mentioned taking the lid off the peanut butter to start with. That is where I am sometimes here, I can't assume anything, but I'm learning.
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12-31-2013 | 01:22 PM
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O.k. I am not going to be as detailed as your professor was.
You probably have a spark plug lying around. If it is a good one pull one plug wire (only pull on the boot! not the wire itself) and put the spare plug on it. Have someone turn the engine over while you hold the plug against ground.
If you don't have a plug lying around, pull one from the engine.
You probably have a spark plug lying around. If it is a good one pull one plug wire (only pull on the boot! not the wire itself) and put the spare plug on it. Have someone turn the engine over while you hold the plug against ground.
If you don't have a plug lying around, pull one from the engine.
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01-10-2014 | 08:55 PM
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Wow, you guys make it hard to concentrate on the topic at hand. First time in my life I actually wished I was grains of sand.
But I digress.
Been for a few week, even went to Cincy for the playoff game. Storm came through Indiana as I was trying to make it back to Wisconsin and got stuck in Lafayette, IN for a couple of days. I know you're all envious aren't ya?
ok, back to the task. I haven't had time to do the spark test, or take apart the distributor yet. I did notice I damaged a hose coming from the air cleaner. I have a picture of it here. Is it possible to just purchase the air filter container, or maybe just get the hose connector? I circuled it in red. Another thing, the big opening facing the camera coming from the large hose that goes from Throttle body to air cleaner. I had oil or something oily around the inside of that opening.
Another thing that I really like about this car. When it's not in operating condition, it is impossible to shift the car into gear (I have an automatic). Today I went out for a short while and I can't shift it. Mostly all signs point to I damaged the distributor as I was trying to move it with a rubber hammer.
Let me know about the hose connector.
But I digress.
Been for a few week, even went to Cincy for the playoff game. Storm came through Indiana as I was trying to make it back to Wisconsin and got stuck in Lafayette, IN for a couple of days. I know you're all envious aren't ya?
ok, back to the task. I haven't had time to do the spark test, or take apart the distributor yet. I did notice I damaged a hose coming from the air cleaner. I have a picture of it here. Is it possible to just purchase the air filter container, or maybe just get the hose connector? I circuled it in red. Another thing, the big opening facing the camera coming from the large hose that goes from Throttle body to air cleaner. I had oil or something oily around the inside of that opening.
Another thing that I really like about this car. When it's not in operating condition, it is impossible to shift the car into gear (I have an automatic). Today I went out for a short while and I can't shift it. Mostly all signs point to I damaged the distributor as I was trying to move it with a rubber hammer.
Let me know about the hose connector.
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01-10-2014 | 11:42 PM
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You are a cheese head from the land of cow pies and beer farts and you are rooting for the Bengals? What's wrong with you! And I thought Noggin is freak! I am resetting my benchmarks!
I don't like that oil in the air intake hose. Most likely source is the PCV, positive crank case ventilation. Replace the PCV valve with a new one. I don't recall if you ever made a compression test, it may be worthwhile. If the rings don't seal against the cylinder then you have blow-by and that increases the flow of gases through the PCV taking oil with it.
You can try to find a air filter box in a junk yard. If it were me I would go to Lowe's or another hardware store and find a suitable nipple to bolt or plastic weld in there.
I don't like that oil in the air intake hose. Most likely source is the PCV, positive crank case ventilation. Replace the PCV valve with a new one. I don't recall if you ever made a compression test, it may be worthwhile. If the rings don't seal against the cylinder then you have blow-by and that increases the flow of gases through the PCV taking oil with it.
You can try to find a air filter box in a junk yard. If it were me I would go to Lowe's or another hardware store and find a suitable nipple to bolt or plastic weld in there.
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01-11-2014 | 11:05 AM
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Well first off I'm from the Cincinnati area and have had and still have Bengals season tickets each year. What can I say, I'm loyal.
I did replace the PCV valve, but in learning where different hoses fit, I did put it in and out more times than a pimply face 16year old boy and a $5 *****. So the ring could be shot.
If that hose is not connected to the air cleaner, would that cause the engine not to kick over?
I did replace the PCV valve, but in learning where different hoses fit, I did put it in and out more times than a pimply face 16year old boy and a $5 *****. So the ring could be shot.
If that hose is not connected to the air cleaner, would that cause the engine not to kick over?
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01-11-2014 | 10:03 PM
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About the Bengals: nothing wrong with being a loyal fan. I just was surprised. On the way to NC we usually stay in Georgetown KY. The Bengals have their training camp there.
Once we stopped in Cincinnati for some famous BBQ....
Pimple face: You have some metaphors!
I don't know what this hose connects to, so I don't know if it could keep the engine from firing up. But you can experiment: Duct tape the hose on.
Besides I seem to see a connector just above the intake hose that has nothing attached to it?
Once we stopped in Cincinnati for some famous BBQ....
Pimple face: You have some metaphors!
I don't know what this hose connects to, so I don't know if it could keep the engine from firing up. But you can experiment: Duct tape the hose on.
Besides I seem to see a connector just above the intake hose that has nothing attached to it?