Synthetic Oil
#11
RE: Synthetic Oil
IMO,
regular oil Semi synthetic Oil
- refined crude oil -mixture reg. oil and sythetic oil
(taken from the ground)-middle price range
-much cheaper -good for 5000km/3 months
-good for ~5000kms/3months.
Sythetic Oil
-made from plants, crops, etc etc
(ie, vegetable oil, etc)
-expensive. i pay ~$60 for full syn compared to ~$30 for reg.
-good for 7500km's or longer/5months.
then you have all the 'high rpm' oil, 4x4 oil, high mileage, etc etc
regular oil Semi synthetic Oil
- refined crude oil -mixture reg. oil and sythetic oil
(taken from the ground)-middle price range
-much cheaper -good for 5000km/3 months
-good for ~5000kms/3months.
Sythetic Oil
-made from plants, crops, etc etc
(ie, vegetable oil, etc)
-expensive. i pay ~$60 for full syn compared to ~$30 for reg.
-good for 7500km's or longer/5months.
then you have all the 'high rpm' oil, 4x4 oil, high mileage, etc etc
#12
RE: Synthetic Oil
ORIGINAL: virgin1
About twice as much, Jaime. It doesn't help the performance enough to even mention, but it does (arguably) protect it better than mineral based oils.
AND it'll safely gotwice as long too, some say up to 18K miles.
I change mine every 10K miles, a filter and top-off after 5.
In my old Honda, which I really beat the **** out of btw, I converted to the "old" Moble1 @ around 80-90K miles and drove the car until it nearly (and literally) rusted out beneath me to 187K.I only changed the oil every 15K... the filter too, though I would NOT recommend doing that. No problems that weren't there before with that car, even up to the end.
About twice as much, Jaime. It doesn't help the performance enough to even mention, but it does (arguably) protect it better than mineral based oils.
AND it'll safely gotwice as long too, some say up to 18K miles.
I change mine every 10K miles, a filter and top-off after 5.
In my old Honda, which I really beat the **** out of btw, I converted to the "old" Moble1 @ around 80-90K miles and drove the car until it nearly (and literally) rusted out beneath me to 187K.I only changed the oil every 15K... the filter too, though I would NOT recommend doing that. No problems that weren't there before with that car, even up to the end.
I run my synthetic about 8-10K miles and it still comes out usable. Remember that just because your oil is black does NOT mean that it is bad or lost it's ability to work.
#13
RE: Synthetic Oil
ORIGINAL: Draconius
Ever see the video about the civic that they ran without oil at all, then water and the thing STILL did not die?
I run my synthetic about 8-10K miles and it still comes out usable. Remember that just because your oil is black does NOT mean that it is bad or lost it's ability to work.
Ever see the video about the civic that they ran without oil at all, then water and the thing STILL did not die?
I run my synthetic about 8-10K miles and it still comes out usable. Remember that just because your oil is black does NOT mean that it is bad or lost it's ability to work.
I don't recall seeing that particular video bit others like it. I my case, seeing it is not always believing it. No oil and plain water in it's place???
In either case, I should've changed my filter more regularly in the Honda.I just didn't know any better at the time. 'Didn't have any money either.....
#14
RE: Synthetic Oil
ORIGINAL: virgin1
This, or somebodyelse on here is going to kill me over this, but I have to (AGAIN) agree w/everything you just said.
I don't recall seeing that particular video bit others like it. I my case, seeing it is not always believing it. No oil and plain water in it's place???
In either case, I should've changed my filter more regularly in the Honda.I just didn't know any better at the time. 'Didn't have any money either.....
ORIGINAL: Draconius
Ever see the video about the civic that they ran without oil at all, then water and the thing STILL did not die?
I run my synthetic about 8-10K miles and it still comes out usable. Remember that just because your oil is black does NOT mean that it is bad or lost it's ability to work.
Ever see the video about the civic that they ran without oil at all, then water and the thing STILL did not die?
I run my synthetic about 8-10K miles and it still comes out usable. Remember that just because your oil is black does NOT mean that it is bad or lost it's ability to work.
I don't recall seeing that particular video bit others like it. I my case, seeing it is not always believing it. No oil and plain water in it's place???
In either case, I should've changed my filter more regularly in the Honda.I just didn't know any better at the time. 'Didn't have any money either.....
Here is the video. They did everything to try to destroy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2BavfShtZU
#16
RE: Synthetic Oil
There's plenty of stuff on the web that says Synthetics are better ... but it seems all of it is on websitesrun bypurveyors of synthetic oil. Think about that.
The engineers of the world can make statements like, "synthetic oil won't evaporate at 325F like conventional oil will" or "in the 10 ball bearings in a cup test, synthetic is better." The question is, in the real life of an engine, what does it all mean?
If someone can provide an independent reference vouching for the superiority of synthetic oil in real life, I would love todive intoit.
If I lived somewhere where the temperature was regularly 10F or colder, or 100F or hotter, I might spring for it (especially the cold temp, asI cannot dispute that pure syntheticflows at sub zero temps much better than regular oil does)... but otherwise, I question the value.
Synthetic or not, I can't imagine not changing the oil for double the recommended period, just because Mobil or Castrol says I can.
The engineers of the world can make statements like, "synthetic oil won't evaporate at 325F like conventional oil will" or "in the 10 ball bearings in a cup test, synthetic is better." The question is, in the real life of an engine, what does it all mean?
If someone can provide an independent reference vouching for the superiority of synthetic oil in real life, I would love todive intoit.
If I lived somewhere where the temperature was regularly 10F or colder, or 100F or hotter, I might spring for it (especially the cold temp, asI cannot dispute that pure syntheticflows at sub zero temps much better than regular oil does)... but otherwise, I question the value.
Synthetic or not, I can't imagine not changing the oil for double the recommended period, just because Mobil or Castrol says I can.
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