View Poll Results: What did you pay for your MAZDA; too much I bet.!
I don't have a Mazda but want one really bad?
1
11.11%
My name is the mighty e-peen?
3
33.33%
I have nothing better to do than bother others in an uninvited way?
1
11.11%
I am about to be banned here for the 7th time?
4
44.44%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll
Buy a New Mazda at Factory Invoice; Today
#21
03-25-2009 | 02:25 AM
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 5
The people in the business school @ GMI (now Kettering) were the ones who couldn't ma
Business reading difficult? Ha. Try Fluid Mechanics, Heat Transfer, Differential Equations, Mechanics of solids, etc.
I think you'd be surprised at the education level on this forum. I hold a BS Mech Engineering and a Master's in Science in Product Development. The people in the business school @ GMI (now Kettering) were the ones who couldn't make it in Engineering.
Funny thing is you're not loyal to your pocketbook. You're badmouthing the company that keeps that wallet of yours filled.
I'm thinking you're a disgruntled former employee of Mazda.
BTW...Drucker's ideals had nothing to do with what your theme of look out for #1.
To quote Peter Drucker
"The best way to predict the future is to create it."
"To focus on contribution is to focus on effectiveness."
If you do indeed still work for Mazda Sales - why don't you concentrate on doing your job better and help to sell more cars rather than trying to dilute any profit that might be made on the cars already being sold.
I think you'd be surprised at the education level on this forum. I hold a BS Mech Engineering and a Master's in Science in Product Development. The people in the business school @ GMI (now Kettering) were the ones who couldn't make it in Engineering.
Funny thing is you're not loyal to your pocketbook. You're badmouthing the company that keeps that wallet of yours filled.
I'm thinking you're a disgruntled former employee of Mazda.
BTW...Drucker's ideals had nothing to do with what your theme of look out for #1.
To quote Peter Drucker
"The best way to predict the future is to create it."
"To focus on contribution is to focus on effectiveness."
If you do indeed still work for Mazda Sales - why don't you concentrate on doing your job better and help to sell more cars rather than trying to dilute any profit that might be made on the cars already being sold.
(The people in the business school @ GMI (now Kettering) were the ones who couldn't make it in Engineering)
I totally agree with your statement; they didn't want to be in program & were more inclined to ring the register @ days end Marketing product. Nothing happens in Auto Wholesale, Retail Business until a sale is made. _______At day’s end it's all about profitability & selling inventory thru manufacture to retail organization. In all my years in business I’ve never seen an Engineer make year end bonuses I or colleagues enjoyed tinkering with heat transfers. Engineers are important but at days end no one is cheering the Engineer once a vehicle sale happens it's about ringing the register._____ As for GMI I remember as a 12 year old traveling to GMI with my uncle Thomas A Murphy that experience led me to the auto industry. Murphy was quoted as saying "General Motors is not in the business of making cars. It is in the business of making money." ____This is true for any Auto Manufacture today regardless of what vehicle they are marketing. At days end it's all about profitability. I guess my uncle Retired General Motors Corp. Chairman & CEO Thomas A. Murphy was correct; “were in the business of making money”
#22
03-25-2009 | 08:40 AM
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,612
Seems like you didn't learn too much from your "Uncle" either. Do you think he would have done what you are doing right now?
BTW....regardless of industry or product - all businesses are in the business of making money.
Enjoyed tinkering with "heat transfers"? Do you even know what the term means? Heat transfer is the numerical calculation of heat moving from one medium to another.
Engineers get bonuses in years that the company makes money. If you truly worked for Mazda for 10 years - you would know that.
Engineers are cheered all the time - It's called vehicle dependability/durability. It happens through solid design development and execution combined with solid process controls. People won't even consider putting their money down on a vehicle that doesn't have solid Engineering behind it. The sale of a car is a transient process for a single point of time. The owner lives with the engineering of the vehicle for the entire time they own the car.
What a joke - you're obviously completely full of it and aren't who you say you are. My vote is that you're the mighty e-peen.
BTW....regardless of industry or product - all businesses are in the business of making money.
Enjoyed tinkering with "heat transfers"? Do you even know what the term means? Heat transfer is the numerical calculation of heat moving from one medium to another.
Engineers get bonuses in years that the company makes money. If you truly worked for Mazda for 10 years - you would know that.
Engineers are cheered all the time - It's called vehicle dependability/durability. It happens through solid design development and execution combined with solid process controls. People won't even consider putting their money down on a vehicle that doesn't have solid Engineering behind it. The sale of a car is a transient process for a single point of time. The owner lives with the engineering of the vehicle for the entire time they own the car.
What a joke - you're obviously completely full of it and aren't who you say you are. My vote is that you're the mighty e-peen.
Last edited by sstlaure; 03-25-2009 at 09:10 AM.
#23
03-25-2009 | 09:04 AM
Super Moderator
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 8,666
From: Manor, TX (Outside of Austin)
While not truly relevant to the current debate here and now, I found this while researching.
Isn't this interesting...?
(1)... He (Thomas A. Murphy) strongly criticized the Carter administration's $1.5 billion bailout to save Chrysler from bankruptcy in 1979, which he said merely made life even more difficult for competitors such as GM; instead he called for a "free market" solution to the crisis, which included urging Washington to lift increasingly tough standards on fuel efficiency and emissions.
My, how the mighty have fallen.
(1) Source: Telegraph.co.uk, 1:09AM GMT 07 Feb 2006 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obit...as-Murphy.html
#24
03-25-2009 | 09:15 AM
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,612
Yeah....and that "handout" to Chrysler was paid back with interest as promised. The American people made money on that one.
#25
03-25-2009 | 01:41 PM
Super Moderator
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 8,666
From: Manor, TX (Outside of Austin)
Yes, I know that. And the world got 10 million K-cars as compensation (
,) 9.5 million of which found the junk yard early in life... What a trade off that was. 
#26
03-25-2009 | 02:28 PM
Thread Starter
|
Banned
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 5
Seems like you didn't learn too much from your "Uncle" either. Do you think he would have done what you are doing right now?
BTW....regardless of industry or product - all businesses are in the business of making money.
Enjoyed tinkering with "heat transfers"? Do you even know what the term means? Heat transfer is the numerical calculation of heat moving from one medium to another.
Engineers get bonuses in years that the company makes money. If you truly worked for Mazda for 10 years - you would know that.
Engineers are cheered all the time - It's called vehicle dependability/durability. It happens through solid design development and execution combined with solid process controls. People won't even consider putting their money down on a vehicle that doesn't have solid Engineering behind it. The sale of a car is a transient process for a single point of time. The owner lives with the engineering of the vehicle for the entire time they own the car.
What a joke - you're obviously completely full of it and aren't who you say you are. My vote is that you're the mighty e-peen.
BTW....regardless of industry or product - all businesses are in the business of making money.
Enjoyed tinkering with "heat transfers"? Do you even know what the term means? Heat transfer is the numerical calculation of heat moving from one medium to another.
Engineers get bonuses in years that the company makes money. If you truly worked for Mazda for 10 years - you would know that.
Engineers are cheered all the time - It's called vehicle dependability/durability. It happens through solid design development and execution combined with solid process controls. People won't even consider putting their money down on a vehicle that doesn't have solid Engineering behind it. The sale of a car is a transient process for a single point of time. The owner lives with the engineering of the vehicle for the entire time they own the car.
What a joke - you're obviously completely full of it and aren't who you say you are. My vote is that you're the mighty e-peen.
(I haven't a clue who the boy is your speaking of; e-peen)
Buick and Jaguar pass Lexus to top J.D. Power reliability study.
Chrissie Thompson
Automotive News
March 19, 2009 - 7:00 am ET
Buick and Jaguar shared first place for brands with the most-dependable vehicles in a study release Thursday, ending Lexus's 14-year reign.
Buick climbed from sixth place last year in market research firm J.D. Power and Associates' Vehicle Dependability Study, and Jaguar soared from 10th. They were followed by Lexus, Toyota and Mercury in the survey of owners of 3-year-old vehicles.
Buick's No. 1 ranking reflects General Motors' efforts to shake a reputation of poor dependability, said David Sargent, J.D. Power's vice president of automotive research.
"Part of GM's historical challenge has been that the customer's perception of GM's vehicles has been not in line with reliability. GM, as well as Ford, has made a lot of strides recently," he said. "Maybe 10 or 15 years ago their vehicles weren't as reliable as some of the imports, but I think today they've virtually caught up."
Below average
Six GM brands finished below the industry average of 170 problems per 100 vehicles. The five brands at the bottom of the dependability rankings were all imports. Suzuki finished last; the next-worst was Volkswagen, below Land Rover, Isuzu and Mazda.
Study authors changed their methods slightly for this year's version, their 19th iteration. They added and deleted questions about some components and reworded questions to ask if parts had "broken," instead of just letting consumers call them problematic.
____________________________________________
(Engineers get bonuses in years that the company makes money. If you truly worked for Mazda for 10 years - you would know that)
I've never "waited" for a bonus because on day to day basis Sales, Marketing & Finance generate profit as Dealers purchase product from us. "We" give Dealer's reason to purchase wholesale. As the vehicle leaves the plant based on our input to_Dealer_to accept "vehicles" by truck load a profit is made. Bonuses are paid differently to different individuals depending on what side of the profit "Statement" your on. Are you on the profit generating statement side or expendure spending side? Think about this give it some thought you will be surprised at answer.
#27
03-25-2009 | 03:31 PM
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,726
From: southern New Hampshire
Is English your first language?
#28
03-25-2009 | 04:39 PM
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,612
(Engineers get bonuses in years that the company makes money. If you truly worked for Mazda for 10 years - you would know that)
I've never "waited" for a bonus because on day to day basis Sales, Marketing & Finance generate profit as Dealers purchase product from us. "We" give Dealer's reason to purchase wholesale. As the vehicle leaves the plant based on our input to_Dealer_to accept "vehicles" by truck load a profit is made. Bonuses are paid differently to different individuals depending on what side of the profit "Statement" your on. Are you on the profit generating statement side or spending side? Think about this give it some thought you will be surprised at answer.
I've never "waited" for a bonus because on day to day basis Sales, Marketing & Finance generate profit as Dealers purchase product from us. "We" give Dealer's reason to purchase wholesale. As the vehicle leaves the plant based on our input to_Dealer_to accept "vehicles" by truck load a profit is made. Bonuses are paid differently to different individuals depending on what side of the profit "Statement" your on. Are you on the profit generating statement side or spending side? Think about this give it some thought you will be surprised at answer.
I'm well aware that Engineering is overhead cost - newsflash - so is Sales/Marketing. The only thing that truly generates revenue for the company is direct manufacturing at the assembly plants for without product, there is nothing to sell. Think about that.
You only make profit if, overall, money is made on the vehicle from a total system standpoint. You can sell cars all day long and still not make profit.
Case in point - Virtually no one in the auto industry made money last year as the overhead fixed costs associated with the business structures established to support a 16 Million unit annual sales rate exceeded the revenue generated by sales that ended up around 11 Million units.
I still don't understand what you are trying to gain through this post. Now you've even seen fit to blast Mazda's quality. That ought to help your sales.
Hopefully when layoffs come around you can get the axe. Mazda doesn't need dead weight like yourself sucking off of the corporate Teet and badmouthing it when you've had your fill.
#29
03-25-2009 | 04:47 PM
Super Moderator
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 8,666
From: Manor, TX (Outside of Austin)
Originally Posted by sstlaure
... I still don't understand what you are trying to gain through this post....
Notice how he has completely ignored the fact that I have posted, what, 9?, now 10 times in this thread? Why would he be trying so hard to ignore me?
'Sound familiar? Did you forget that I am a "Fascist Pig?"
#30
03-25-2009 | 05:25 PM
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,350
From: New York, New York
Can we just have him banned already? We're wasting our time with this dip****.