Actually he does not drive a honda (and there was more than one person who give the same neg response who differed in age and cars they drive), not saying that 13's is slow, its just when you compare the performance of the car to the hype it got....its a let down. I (yes me) was actually looking forward to seeing the SHO impress me (im a fan of companies that try to bring back the older version of cars people love) again the SHO does not live up to the previous inspiration the previous year had on me and other SHO lovers (atleast the ones who actually have one or had one) also why most people i talk to also dislike the 2010 Mustang (it got further away from the original style and the front end is almost a copy of the 2010 camaro).

New BMW convertibles can go die in a fire as well, for that fact id take a way older BWM anything over the newer models (maybe not as much as the M3)

 

Euro Focus comes some time next year or the following. It will be build in Wayne Michigan at the former Michigan Truck Plant (formerly built the Expedition/Navigator) It's also incredible. Do a search on some of the higher performance versions available in Europe. I would expect SVT would certainly do something with that platform.

If you haven't driven the SHO, please do. Don't go by what anyone else says.

FYI....Manzdaspeed3 is a high 5 second 0-60 and a 15 second quarter mile car and you're disappointed with low-5's and 13's in a 4300 lb full-size car? It's not meant to be a Camry/Accord.

350 ft-lbs of torque available at 1400 rpm with AWD is a blast. It just doesn't feel like you're going warp speed because it's so quiet/smooth. I'm a performance car guy and I was very impressed. Keeping in mind this is a family car we're talking about here. It leaves the original SHO in a cloud of dust.

 

i keep saying the SHO is not slow its just disappointing vs the older one, again the other example is the base 2010 mustang, it doesnt give the same umph its just more gradual and smooth, some ppl dont like that, they turned a bold fun car into a mild family luxury boat, i guess its a nice alt for what its supposed to go against like a bmw or something, but i wouldnt get any new bwm or this. just because its faster dont mean its better, it has to have a fun factor.

im sorry did you mean the reg 2.3l non turbo mazda3...i hope so because the speed 3 is still the fastest FWD 1/4mi car to date running ~13.42 vs the srt-4 neon with a E/T of ~13.53 and yes 1/4mi. and what you said is the time a 2.3 non turbo runs stock atx or mtx

 

And the Cobalt SS isn't far behind, with 13.665. http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-17087.html

Though I doubt anyone would want an SRT Neon over the Cobalt, even if it's faster stock. In a straight line.

 

I was off a little on the 0-60 times and about 1 second on the 1/4 mile for the Speed3.

From Motortrend:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...rformance.html

At the track, the new Speed3's performance was not all that different from what it was the last time we tested it (that one was a 2009 model). This year, the hatch reached 60 mph in 5.6 seconds, which is exactly as quick as last year's model. It completed the quarter mile in 14.1 seconds at 99.9 mph (as opposed to last year's 14.1 at 100.6 mph), and braking in both cases was 112 feet.

The non-turbo 3 is much slower than you are thinking:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

We recently took the 3 hatch to the test track, where it scooted to 60 mph in respectable 7.5 sec -- a tick faster than the slightly lighter, 2.5L-equipped sedan (3027 lb vs. 3068) we tested. The five-door hit the quarter mile in 15.8 sec at 87.8 mph, the same time we got for the four-door

Also from Motortrend:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...nce_price.html
The story's the same at the dragstrip, where the new Taurus whooshes quietly off to 60 mph in 5.2 seconds, hitting the quarter in 13.7 seconds at 103 mph, besting the 1992 five-speed manual by a second and a half and 9 mph, and the base 2010 by almost two seconds and 12 mph.

Taurus SHO is AWD, not FWD. It hands the Speed3 it's butt in acceleration. I'd much rather have the new SHO vs the old.

FYI...Ford sells a ton of those boring V6 Mustangs because not everyone wants a V8. The V6 is slower. If you want performance, you don't even consider not getting a V8. V6 Mustangs are for college girls that want a cute coupe. I, for one, wouldn't consider anything less than a GT and would prefer GT500 trim (a little pricey though)

2010 Mustang GT 0-60 4.9 seconds, Less than nine ticks later, at 13.5 seconds, the GT eclipses the quarter mile at a speed of 104.2 mph, or 0.2 second quicker and 1.5 mph faster than the no-longer-so-bullet Bullitt.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

I'm calling you out tracker....if you think the Mustang GT feels slow, you've never been in one with someone that knows how to drive. Every professional review I've seen puts the 2010 as an improvement over 2009.

 

I would have know problem taking this 2009

Now if only I had around $70,000 I could go get one

 

According to the hood that's 510hp. Saleen?

The 2010 Shelby GT500 sports 540hp.
0-60 in 4.3 seconds 12.3 in the 1/4 mile & 0.95g on the skidpad.

So you only need $50K.

 

It is a Roush P-51, it says 510 on the hood because they could not have an advertised HP more than what SVT was getting, sticker is a tad over 66,000.
The Dealer I saw it at is both a Roush and a Shelby dealer, side by side the Roush looked much better and is quicker than all the Shelbys except for the Super Snake.
This is a Quote From Jalopnik

 

The Supersnake article I had read showed the GT500 dead even through ~60mph with the Supersnake, but then the SS runs away from the GT500, but not THAT much faster than the GT500 (12.0 sec 1/4 vs 12.3) Skidpad numbers for the SS were lower as well 0.92g vs 0.95. They had trouble putting the 750hp to the ground.

 

I know at the Dealership where I saw the car, the stuff I was reading on the car said it was 0.96 on the skid pan, that was the 09, the 08 was 0.93, that was the reason for the tire change in the 09. From what I understand it can also be as high as 545HP on the dyno stock, and the internals are good for 700HP. Unlike the SS the Roush still has a 3/36000 mile bumper to bumper warranty, where the Drive Train in the SS is not Warranted by Ford.